Selena was blessed with the gift of being able to connect with her spirit guides and loves having the opportunity to guide people through difficult situations and to give insights into their life. Her focus is to empower people on their journey and to help heal and move any blocks that hinder their path.
Selena is the author of the book and Tarot Deck - The Journey to Enlightenment and now teaches Tarot and many other spiritual workshops.

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[00:00:00] April Hannah: Well, hello everyone. And thank you so much for tuning into the path 11 podcast. If you love cards and love to row, this is definitely going to be an episode that you're not going to want to miss. My guest today is Selena joy. She's a psychic medium Reiki master mindfulness practitioner and life coach.

[00:00:27] April Hannah: She's trained in Chinese medicine, CBT therapy and NLP counseling. NLP stands for neuro linguistic programming. Uh, CBT is cognitive behavioral therapy and she works with the Tarot to guide seekers forward on a journey of enlightenment. Helping them release any negative energy, preventing them from achieving their goals.

[00:00:48] April Hannah: And for those of you who are watching on path 11 TV, I was lucky enough to get a, A courtesy copy of her deck. It's called the journey to enlightenment tarot. And she is [00:01:00] also the author of the book here. And, uh, the illustrations are by a Daniella Forster. Um, and they're actually beautiful. So I'm Selena.

[00:01:09] April Hannah: I am really curious to hear more about you and the work that you do, because it sounds like you and I have a lot of the same skills and I'm jealous because I've always wanted to create my own deck. And I'm sure one day I will, I just don't know how it will happen 

[00:01:25] April Hannah: and when it will happen. 

[00:01:27] April Hannah: Yeah. Yeah. So give me a little more information about your background, because I know that, you know, the, the actually really helped you in your own healing, which is why you're here.

[00:01:37] Selena Lovett: It did, you know, I, um, I was so lucky. I always say sort of like years ago, 30 odd years ago, there weren't really counselors. You didn't have anywhere to go. There wasn't Instagram, social media podcasts, anywhere that you could go and identify with people that were having difficulties. If it wasn't in your circle of friends, you were sort of there like an outsider, wondering [00:02:00] how to deal with life from what the hell is it all about?

[00:02:02] Selena Lovett: Why do I feel like this? And I was lucky enough to be gifted a fantasy. Pack of, uh, Terros by medium, that I'd met. And there started my journey. You know, I was just able to discover, to connect with spirit to know that there was something beyond the life we were living and it became myself self-help help dictionary.

[00:02:23] Selena Lovett: Um, and so it just helped guide me through my feelings. Because they were all over the place. And then I sort of step-by-step discovered that not only did it help me with my feelings, it helped me, it guided me to make the right decisions for me within my life. And then it sort of then empowered me enough for me to.

[00:02:46] Selena Lovett: How to get what I wanted to manifest, what I wanted instead of, you know, leaving it up to fate, I would think, right. I want that. Is it right for me? How do I get it? And I was able to sort of harness [00:03:00] the energy. So it was a great journey of discovery to do that. And then I just want to spread the word to everybody.

[00:03:07] Selena Lovett: Yeah. But tarot. I want tarot to be in everybody's, you know, on everybody's desktop so that when they wake up in the morning and they'll pick a card and think, okay, what's going on in my life, what do I need to do? And how do I help myself? And so it just becomes part of our daily daily habit to have tarot.

[00:03:26] Selena Lovett: And instead of everybody thinking they're just for the gypsy down there, down the FunFair. 

[00:03:31] April Hannah: Right, exactly. Yeah. So you really, it. It as an application to help your life, to help your emotions, to seek guidance, spiritual guidance, Vince, on, on what to do. Um, and what get a little bit more into that, but also I want to talk about your other skills too, right?

[00:03:49] April Hannah: So you're saying medium, um, you're you do Reiki mindful this practitioner and life coach. So it sounds like you probably like most practitioners who are in the field had intuition early on and [00:04:00] yeah. Um, and then as you kind of move through your own journey, you begin to develop and really realize that you have some of these skills and do that.

[00:04:08] April Hannah: So what kind of work are you doing right now? Um, aside from the. 

[00:04:14] Selena Lovett: Mainly I'm teaching to be honest now, because I teach Terros. So I teach it as a self-help tool, as well as, as a business, you know, to start your own business because I find a lot of people in this holistic business. To them, because I sort of really started doing a lot of, um, do an acupuncture massage, and they used to bring the taro into the treatment because I could show people where that backache had come from.

[00:04:42] Selena Lovett: Although I was chasing it, energetically, I'd say, look, this is where it's come. It's going all the way back to this, you know, whatever childhood incident or whatever stress was going on in their life. So, um, I started doing that and I've just tried to sort of. Uh, I'm hoping to teach [00:05:00] people that they can integrate it into their business.

[00:05:03] Selena Lovett: So I teach a lot of taro. I also teach how to use tarot to manifest and to make magic and spell will bring the cards alive. So it's about harnessing that energy. The power we've all got magical was sounds very mystical. And, um, we were, but it isn't really. What we do without knowing sometimes. So this is just to harness that energy and make the steps to make it happen.

[00:05:29] Selena Lovett: And, um, also teach sort of connecting with your spirit guide so you can connect because we've all got this amazing gift, but we just don't realize it. So I teach how to connect with your spirit guides. I work with another lady in other medium, and we'd do a couple of courses doing that. And then, uh, uh, a course all about connecting to your guides and channel and messages to create your own tarot deck or your own soul messages.

[00:05:55] Selena Lovett: So, um, I do a lot of teaching and, you know, reading, but it's [00:06:00] not so much Tara read. And as a lot of people, um, feel it is or think it is, you know, it's not sort of saying, yeah. So you're going to get married in two years time and have three kids and you're going to have fine. It is really quite an emotional, it's more like a counselor and I'm finding out, you know, this is the path you're on.

[00:06:20] Selena Lovett: You know, they're the blocks. It's a very emotional spread and you know, where do you want to go? This is how you, this is where you could be if you wanted to. So it's about, it's a bit more of an emotional lead in them. Certain emotional journey. So that's how I sort of read tarot. So it's, it's all about empowering people.

[00:06:39] Selena Lovett: So a lot, a lot of teaching and I love mediumship. I really enjoy it. I find it such, such again, a such a healing, um, gift to be able to, to have to part with people, to share with people. 

[00:06:52] April Hannah: Yeah. All right. Well maybe if there's time, maybe you could do a short spread for me and you could demonstrate your skills and show people how it [00:07:00] actually works.

[00:07:00] April Hannah: Now let's talk a little bit more about the deck, because I feel like some people can be very scared of the taro deck, where people may be a little more open to like animal cards or angel card readings. Um, but there is something, I mean the taro deck has been a lot around for a very, very long time, and I know some people get really scared when the death card comes up.

[00:07:24] April Hannah: Um, so I, yeah. Can you talk maybe just a little bit more, um, about the history of this type of deck and maybe we can even go through, like, what are the wands mean? What are the cups? What are the Pentacles, um, you know, the different categories of it to understand it a little bit. 

[00:07:41] Selena Lovett: Well, first of all, one of the things that do teach in my courses, the one of the first things is if you're doing a spread for people and the death card comes out, do explain to people.

[00:07:51] Selena Lovett: It doesn't mean death. In fact, it's quite a positive card, you know, depends every reading, but it is a very positive card because it's all about [00:08:00] rebirth. You know, that some things in your life that has had to. Stop to see, and that's now gone and then you're, you're entering into this rebirth. So it can it's, it can be a very, very positive card, but yeah, people are scared of cards and it's a shame.

[00:08:18] Selena Lovett: I know when I started being into terror, people would back off a bit. And when I used it in my treatment room, a lot of the people would say, oh, I don't want Tara. So I used angel cards and goddess guide. Yeah. But then I thought, well, you're just going to have to, you're going to have to like turn it in.

[00:08:36] Selena Lovett: And they are, I mean, this is why I feel that these cards are because they're very bright, they're full of color and they're quite, they're very deep when you look into the pit. But they're very, I feel very positive because some of the death cards are quite gruesome. Some of the tower cards are quite gruesome, but, um, so I feel that they are a very positive card and I feel that cards that you can sort [00:09:00] of look at and really pick up on different things with the colors and the images Daniela and I worked very closely on the cards and I feel that they're infused with the magic that she's got as an artist.

[00:09:12] Selena Lovett: Cause they're all drawn and. The energy and passion, that's gone into them. And then from my words, or the energy behind them from all the years of reading and things and all the love and energy. So I feel that they're sort of really in these cards and then there's the learning to read them. I feel that, um, you know, splitting them up as you say, into the ones which are, or I'm just trying to find them, let me find what we've got.

[00:09:40] Selena Lovett: So the way, so let me, I've got one of cups. So we've got the ACEs, which always brings, um, in a message of beginnings. It's the start of something, the spark of something. And with the cups, it is a spark of love. So there's some sort of love coming into your [00:10:00] life. I often feel that this card is the start of self-love of beginning to sort of recognize your.

[00:10:06] Selena Lovett: That the love that you should be bringing to yourself. So the cups are all about love in all forms and emotions, or, you know, in all forms. Then you come over to the swords, which are more about thoughts and inspiration and logic. So this card is often perceived as quite there's. Some of the sold cards are perceived as a bit more negative because we have this way of thinking.

[00:10:35] Selena Lovett: So then. It's come, you know, she's got all these, the swords that indicate thoughts are quite heavy over her mind, but in this card when it comes up, instead of it sort of just being a whim, yeah. You've got a lot going on. You might be anxious and not sleeping. You've also in the book. If you pick that card up in the morning and you're like, oh my God, it's not going to be a brilliant day.

[00:10:57] Selena Lovett: But then you've got in the journey of enlightenment section. [00:11:00] You've got, what, how are you connected? This energy, what you can do, you can do some breathing, some grounded, um, you know, tips to help you. Use this, and it'll get out of this energy and get away from any anxious feelings. Um, and then the ones. So the ones are all about passion, the ACE of ones.

[00:11:21] Selena Lovett: So here, you've got like this passion coming in and infuse the ASM and more movement within the ones. And what else have we got where I've trying to find another. And the Pentacles of, at which can't find one and the Pentacles, they're more sort of a grounded energy, a slower energy, and often about finances, health security.

[00:11:46] Selena Lovett: So the four suits bring in four different entities. Um, once you start learning the suits and a little bit about the numbers, they do start telling a story and becoming easy to read. Um, and I [00:12:00] feel that you can read, I mean, I teach the Tyro the, so the traditional meanings, my sort of interpretation, which brings in the advice that comes with, um, you know, the life coach and, and things like that.

[00:12:13] Selena Lovett: And then it's your intuition because I feel that terror, the key to. Your guidance and your intuition. So you may look at these cards and see something very different to what's written in the book, but it's not wrong. It's the message that you're getting given. So it's just about being open to, to the difference.

[00:12:34] Selena Lovett: And the other card that is, I've just seen it in my pack and I've just, it's gone. It's gone was the tower card. But look at that. I mean, that's just so sunny. I know this is on, uh, on the radio as well, so it's, it's a beautiful sunshine. And I think, you know, you look at these cards, the colors make. That make any situation gives you the answers to many situations and definitely makes you feel more positive [00:13:00] about, about situations.

[00:13:02] Selena Lovett: I was trying to find the tower card, which again is something that's usually quite feared, but I can't find it, but this, this is the desk card. But again, I feel with this one, especially because you got the red and the green, so it's like stock. So you're stopping to doing certain things, which can be bad.

[00:13:20] Selena Lovett: So a certain situation you've grown and then you're coming up to the green light where you're, you've got all this hope and dreams coming in. So, uh, even the death card, there's a lot of positivity within the card. So definitely not something to be feared. And once, once you get to know them, they've got so many answers and such guidance for you.

[00:13:43] Selena Lovett: I mean, for me, they become my best friend. Sometimes they tell me things I don't want to know, or I don't want to listen to I, no, that's not the answer I want through again, but you know, as a lot of best friends do they do tell you when, when your bum looks bigger than that? 

[00:13:59] April Hannah: [00:14:00] Yeah. Well, you know, that brings up a good point, I guess.

[00:14:02] April Hannah: Or I had, um, someone asked me she was using an angel card deck and it sounded like she kept asking the same question and throwing more cards, or maybe it wasn't liking what was happening. And then she was getting really confused. She's like, well, how come you know, I asked it and I got one set of cards and then I asked it again and I got something else.

[00:14:20] April Hannah: And, um, Would you also say that, you know, sometimes we may want a certain answer and we can push the deck to try to give us that if we don't like it, we scoop them up and try it again. Um, and that could, cause I think that causes confusion in the deck, you know, because it doesn't really know what it's trying to answer.

[00:14:38] Selena Lovett: Well, what I sort of suggest for people to do in those circumstances, is there any type that time to disconnect a little bit to ground yourself and then put your intentions. And I sort of say, I'm going to not go from my intuition, show me with like the traditional readings, the di traditional, whatever, the booklet that comes with it, you know, that will have the [00:15:00] answer.

[00:15:00] Selena Lovett: And so there's some sort of way that can you communication and connection. So I sort of, uh, ground myself and then, um, For the inflammation to come and not come from me sometimes, because then I think, okay, what do I need to know right now in my life? And I'll throw the card. And instead of me looking at the picture, what do I need to know?

[00:15:21] Selena Lovett: Um, I'm seeing, so this is the full list is, and it can be interpreted so many ways. It can be, you know, very. Positive cause it's new beginnings and you're rushing, you know, you're going out there and it's going to be great or it can be, are you actually be in the fall? Which usually is in my case, in the full, um, you know, behave in foolishly.

[00:15:42] Selena Lovett: So, but what I would do, I usually, if I can't interpret it or I really. For the cards to give me the answer that I want, I then refer to the book, which will then something will stand out in it and I'll think, okay. Yeah, I know, uh, I'm on the right track. It's new beginnings and I've just got to look at the [00:16:00] positive things and not the negative.

[00:16:01] Selena Lovett: So that's what I tend to do. And I will only. I'm going to say this, that it's a bit of a lie. I'll only do it once. I don't, I have to stop myself, but I do just try to ask the question once, because if not the same answers, get thrown at you again, uh, just in a different way. 

[00:16:22] April Hannah: Yeah. And what would you say to maybe people that come to you say once a month or a couple of times, and they pulled the same cards and they're like, oh my gosh, you know, I got the, the two of swords again.

[00:16:35] April Hannah: Why does the two of swords keep coming up? What's your interpretation with why some cards still stay in our spread? Even there can be a lot of time that has gone by. It shows up, 

[00:16:45] Selena Lovett: you should have feel it's because they've not actually done. They've not taken the advice of that card. So particularly with the two of swords, it's about being blocked and indecisive or not seeing.

[00:16:57] Selena Lovett: And so when this card comes up, it's usually okay. It's time to [00:17:00] make a choice, take some action, write down the pros and cons of the situation or study, investigate art, but do something because it. Don't make a decision. You're just going to be stuck in the two of swords forever. So if somebody came to the redone with me, once we would look at that card quite in depth and say, okay, what are the choices?

[00:17:21] Selena Lovett: And then you can sort of make with the cards to different. You know, choice a or choice B, which one's best for you. And then if they go away, but don't actually take any action. Then the same card may come up again because sometimes our lives get stuck and less, we actually, um, you know, take that fair and take that decisions.

[00:17:44] Selena Lovett: Okay, I'm going to do this. And she told me I should do it and everything going to be okay. But sometimes people do need that push and, um, and sometimes when it's. Stepping out of your comfort zone, you may need to be told twice, but then once you actually take that [00:18:00] step, you're thinking. Yeah. And I was listening to some of the other day and you think, yeah, everything worth having is outside of your comfort zone.

[00:18:08] April Hannah: That is so true. 

[00:18:11] Selena Lovett: So tarot can sort of keep giving you that, you know, I'm here, I've got your hands, you're going in the right way. Come on. So it's like having your I'm with you just reassuring you that you're on the right path. And you're, you know, if you keep going forward, you know, the universal keep conspiring to make things happen for you, but you've got to take that, you know, you've you, it's your personal responsibility to make that choice and take the act.

[00:18:38] Selena Lovett: Yeah. Sometimes I me just push them. I 

[00:18:42] April Hannah: love that though. The things that we want are usually outside of our comfort zone, that's beautifully said, so what makes your deck different than just buying the very original, you know, Touro deck. Um, and I know you've kind of touched upon this a little bit, I think, with your experience and what you've [00:19:00] learned, and it feels like there's a real personal touch, uh, to the cards and what they have taught you along the way, but.

[00:19:06] April Hannah: I mean, you can go to like a Barnes and noble and you can see so many different variations of the original, you know, tarot cards. So what makes yours different? I 

[00:19:17] Selena Lovett: feel it's, they're very modern. And so I feel there's a lot of new energy around them. The Dean and I feel in the, especially because they were, we were finishing, writing this book and doing the artwork as we came, we were going through lockdown and restrictions.

[00:19:34] Selena Lovett: So I feel there was a lot that, um, went into them. That's, that's very relevant for what we're experiencing in the world right now. Um, and a lot of the cards I feel are emotional. More emotionally supported, you know, so you've got the traditional readings or the traditional meanings can help you a lot in life.

[00:19:55] Selena Lovett: But I think when you look at the journey to enlightenment, it helps you harness [00:20:00] your personal power to, to use the energy that comes up in the Empress. And then it makes you go to the next step or it takes you to the next step. So I feel it's, it's almost like using tarot as a. As a self-help book to get you on the path for health and wellness and balance, which is what we all want in our life, you know, thanks that elusive balance.

[00:20:25] Selena Lovett: But I feel that that's what helps them. And I feel that they're just there for me. I think they're sort of infused magically, you know, we were saying words have so much magic and power and I really do feel it within the cards, you know? So, um, yeah, I've seen feel that they're easy to get. Too. And there's just something quite special about them.

[00:20:46] Selena Lovett: You know, I feel with the artwork and the words, it's just sort of all knitted in perfectly together. 

[00:20:52] April Hannah: Yeah. And my sense too, is that, you know, each, each author of these card decks, they're bringing their energy [00:21:00] into it, you know, which I think why some people are drawn to certain decks and, and another one's, you know, and people might be really drawn to your energy, into the energy of the artist.

[00:21:09] April Hannah: So I think. Every deck is different. And if you were to go out and probably buy five different Teradeks, they would feel very different and maybe even respond differently to questions, because we also have to think about the creators of these decks. And like you said, like the love and the energy that gets put into them is probably going to carry the vibration of the person that created them, not just of what Touro means, you know?

[00:21:35] April Hannah: It's you being brought out into the cards as well. It's almost as like, if you're there with us giving us the reading, we have your energy and the cards. Right. 

[00:21:44] Selena Lovett: So instead I feel like it's sitting on my shoulder, not when she did actually say nagging me because I was trying to push her in that direction, leave those habits alone and get new ones.

[00:21:54] Selena Lovett: But yeah. So, I mean, I've got about, I think 50 decks of cards. Um, but I did [00:22:00] remember buying one that I just couldn't connect with, you know, for whatever reason, I just didn't like it. But I would say to people, you know, go look at the cards, look at them now. Cause we're all on Instagram and YouTube, you know, we get to, but you don't have to go and look at a packet, you know?

[00:22:14] Selena Lovett: Cause it's sometimes like, Packets, but we can look and see on Instagram and see, you know, what the cards look like and the energy of the person behind them, which I think is really great. I know my friend said the other day, cause I was, um, I do some Facebook lives or some Instagram lives. One time I was recording.

[00:22:34] Selena Lovett: I think the message for the day. And there was walking along the beach during the message. Yeah. Picked up, dusted it off and carried on. And she said, oh my God, you did it even edit it. And I was like, well, if anyone comes for a reading with me, they'll know, unlike that,

[00:22:51] Selena Lovett: and I know some other people do. Perfectly and make the cards go like this and whatever I said, no, I'm just me accident [00:23:00] prone. I'll be reading in the car to get flown. So said, you know, I try you on camera. I try to be it's me. It's my energy. And people either like it, or they'll say, oh my God, what an idiot quite different way.

[00:23:15] Selena Lovett: And I think that is exactly. You said about the cards, you know, people will feel something in the vibration just to think they're the cards for me, you know, that's, what's going to stimulate my intuition and guide me. 

[00:23:28] April Hannah: Yeah. And I would say too, I, I, you know, you may agree with me, but I feel like, um, When, or my experience has been when the reader, so the person who has the deck of cards is very connected to their deck and has built a relationship with them.

[00:23:45] April Hannah: Um, that it's a much more powerful reading. And, you know, if people are getting a card reading for the first time, I would also say, That you want to find a reader that does have an element of intuition, because like we were talking about the two sorts [00:24:00] will always mean something, right. Has a theme, but a person with really well-developed intuition can look into that and see how that connects to the person who is getting the reading.

[00:24:10] April Hannah: And, you know, you and I could pull all the same cards, but a really good intuitive reader. It's going to sound like two totally different stories. There still could be an element of you and I, uh, having similarities either in relationships or work or something like that, but the takeaway. Kind of the channeling of what happens as the person that's reading and receiving the information from spirit and from their guides, it will be delivered in a totally different way.

[00:24:37] April Hannah: Would you 

[00:24:38] Selena Lovett: agree? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I feel that people, when they're looking for redo, this is why it's so lovely now that everybody is so open, there's so much going on on social media, but they can look at the rate and, oh, I like what she sends some. Deliver really bluntly. I've watched a few people.

[00:24:54] Selena Lovett: They're like really, really blunt other people that do it very softly or you know, that [00:25:00] everybody's got their different way of reading and some are just pure card readers. Um, and others like myself, it really is connected in and use an intuition. So I, I feel that's better. You know, I feel that you get much more precise heart to heart cause you connect so deeply.

[00:25:19] Selena Lovett: You sort of become your, you know, your clients. So well, it's like a really special bond that you share for that hour or half hour, whatever it is, a new, uh, it's a very heartfelt read. And I feel when you connect with intuition and, um, you know, to, to the high, to the aura, to higher power to spirit guides, you know, it just.

[00:25:41] Selena Lovett: Brings you connects you and that's when you get all the answers and things really flow. But as it depends, how also I feel that some people come and they want terrorism, but they just don't want too much, you know? So, so it depends. And I do feel that it's something that it's really good to do quite [00:26:00] regularly.

[00:26:01] Selena Lovett: You do go when you're going through different situations. Um, and I feel that then the more trust in people are, if you, the more they take from, from every visit, you know? So it's the more they give and the more they take away from it. Definitely. Yeah. 

[00:26:15] April Hannah: Awesome. Well, would you like to give me a small mini rating while we 

[00:26:20] Selena Lovett: got any little bit of stills or should I just say see what comes up?

[00:26:24] April Hannah: Yeah. Let's let's just see what comes up. Right. I'm open to anything.

[00:26:36] Selena Lovett: Okay. Well, you know, we were talking in the very beginning, 

[00:26:42] April Hannah: of course. All right, everyone. Here we go. 

[00:26:48] Selena Lovett: The moment. I feel you're going through some big changes. There's big changes going on, either energetically or within situations in your life. I do feel it's both, you know, and I feel that perhaps [00:27:00] may have disturbed your energy, but again, it is a good disturbance.

[00:27:04] Selena Lovett: However, I also feel you may be a little bit at odds of what's going on. I've got the five big ones come in, which means there's perhaps a little bit of. Chaos in, in a good way. It's like, I feel almost like brainstorming around, you know? So it feels like there's quite a lot going on, but with both these cards together, we have the tower come in.

[00:27:25] Selena Lovett: This is the card I was looking at. So I feel, yeah, so you have, as we go along, but you've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, um, major our counters. So there's definitely a lot of stuff going down. But it is all very positive because you're going through these big changes that you made, maybe feeling that they're a little bit unsettling and you may feel things a little bit up in the air, or you've got so many thoughts and things coming in that you're not quite sure of where you're going and you may even have other people.

[00:27:58] Selena Lovett: Uh, that, uh, suggesting [00:28:00] things or even interfering, but this does come in, what this all means is it is a little bit of a personal awakening, you know, especially during these two cards together. I wouldn't say it's a little one, I'd say it's quite a big one. Um, and when you really, but it feels like you're really stepping into yourself.

[00:28:20] Selena Lovett: So it's like it almost. Say it it's like you grow up you're you're growing up and it's like, you don't need to pretend anymore. You don't need to, to please people, you don't need to pretend that that's okay or not. Okay. This is you, you know, this is the real you coming out to the world and the next card is the emperor.

[00:28:40] Selena Lovett: So again, I feel with these cards all together with, with a bit of, um, Almost been a little bit strict self-discipline yourself. So sort of saying, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm doing this and I'm gonna be organized about it. I'm going to throw out those things from the [00:29:00] past, I'm going to face for future. I'm going to face the future, put my boundaries up a little bit better, you know, so I, I have time to go through this, but also I feel in the past, she may have been swayed and that's why this card might come anyway.

[00:29:14] Selena Lovett: Swayed by opinions about others or thoughts about those. And this is saying, no, you've got, you've got this. Uh, it's really time to go forward with your gift, our lead in it, and, you know, stepping into the future and cutting away with this camp that the emperor talks about cleaning the place. The way, it, especially with the death card and these cards, and then what comes into view.

[00:29:37] Selena Lovett: I almost feel like you'll get where you have to. I don't think you've got a choice about it actually, because of them all being the major eye canners. Um, but I feel you'll get to where you're going better with this. Boundaries and, you know, letting it happen and just keep helping to clear out the past, because then what I feel coming in is even more gifts.

[00:29:57] Selena Lovett: This is the ACE of ones. [00:30:00] So I feel you're being gifted with more passion in your life. More spot, more freedom. I feel you just got, you know, this expansion of almost stepping out and being the person that you really want it to be this flash of color. Gross. That's really positive. And the 10 of Pentacles comes in, which is all about being happy.

[00:30:20] Selena Lovett: I was going to say it's usually sort of happy family and, but I feel it's it's you, every part of your life falls into being happier because you've gone through. The tower card, and you're more inline with yourself. You're more honest with yourself. And so that creates this happy vibe. And once you're happier, everything in life's happier and it brings in more freedom, perhaps freedom with people in your life, you know, really neutralizing this card gets really neutralized because as you step up and you're happier, um, but I will.

[00:30:54] Selena Lovett: So if he says, yeah, So good finances as well. So it feels like business. What [00:31:00] you're doing will also enhance your business. You know, it really gives you a bit because you've got the passion for it. When you have passion, your vibes are really high, so it's going to start and I feel the energy really, um, starts building up to be quite far.

[00:31:17] Selena Lovett: One of the con this is like the shadow card, uh, which is the devil. Do you know? So you've really got all the, oh, what could be called as the nasties in terror. So the devil comes in and I feel this is your shadow card because I feel that you're being, you're coming into a situation that's very much on your soul path.

[00:31:35] Selena Lovett: It's very much on your, this is going to happen. You're going to step up and really share your gifts and really stepping up. And that's the word I keep getting for you. Um, You know, what is that? And I feel like asking, you know, if we, what is it that you back, because I feel that this has happened before in your life, that things, you know, this is about what the chains that hold [00:32:00] you down.

[00:32:00] Selena Lovett: And it could be just your personal thoughts, you know, not as self doubt that chains you a little bit back from this sheer freedom of these cards, you know, side feel that, um, you know, The energy is to work with is a lot more self-love self nurturing, believe in yourself and allowing yourself to grow, surrender in up to everything.

[00:32:24] Selena Lovett: And, um, you know, stepping into your. I was saying, like being free to love free, you know, just seeing everything with love. That sounds really cliche, but it's like seeing everything with love to yourself, to others. You'll rise above it all, and really go, go into this fantastic energy of the ACE of ones and the 10 of cups.

[00:32:50] April Hannah: Awesome. Well, yes. Um, all accurate. So can you, can you hold up each card one for one and I can kind of walk you through and give you some [00:33:00] feedback 

[00:33:00] Selena Lovett: too, because the first card was the bad boy that we were speaking about. That isn't that 

[00:33:06] April Hannah: right? This is extremely accurate for where I am right now in so many different avenues, but also with grief and dying, you know, with, um, my audience knows that my mother passed pretty tragically a couple of years ago.

[00:33:20] April Hannah: So with that though, it has allowed me once her transition happened, allowed me to do a lot more processing of early childhood trauma. So I am currently in the process of going through. A 14 week class. That is the next card was the five of ones. That's all about. Um, the fifth dimension and healing within the fifth dimension.

[00:33:44] April Hannah: And it's all in, you used the word freedom and the number five in numerology also represents the essence of freedom. And I would say that there's been like a lot of ideas and stuff that's going. And then when you said you really don't have a choice. This, um, some of the grief [00:34:00] that I have been holding on to, because my, when my mom had passed, um, there wasn't a whole lot of time to get into the grieving because the pandemic hit.

[00:34:07] April Hannah: And then I was kind of shifted from my own grief and then went into taking care of my clients. Right. So didn't have a lot of. Self-love and take the time that I needed. And in turn, some of that has manifested more in my lungs and physically like dealing with some medical issues. So when you said, like, you really don't have a choice in that that's 100% true, but, um, there was also a card a little bit later on after the tower where 

[00:34:37] Selena Lovett: infer boundaries harsh, harder and clearing 

[00:34:41] April Hannah: out.

[00:34:42] April Hannah: Yeah. And clearing out. So I'm actually doing like an elimination diet. That's giving me really strict boundaries of sugar, like no sugar, no caffeine, no alcohol. Um, and really is like preparing my body in a totally different way to be like this healer that I am and this [00:35:00] vessel. And like you said, to be able to move into more of that energy, which, um, Was 

[00:35:08] Selena Lovett: gifted with all this passion and power.

[00:35:11] Selena Lovett: And it's funny, the blue, now you say healing, you know, this beautiful blue, which I was associate with Healon. 

[00:35:18] April Hannah: Yeah. And, and with that, you know, it goes back to kind of the, the five with all of the ideas. I'm constantly thinking about, you know, the business and what can I do with path 11 and how do I incorporate my own healing journey?

[00:35:31] April Hannah: Into the platform that I have to get it out there, you know, to others. And, you know, I always feel like whatever you learn as a person in the position that we're in, it's like once you have it figured out, you want to be, like you said, you want to share this deck with the world 

[00:35:46] Selena Lovett: excited. You just got to listen to me, honestly.

[00:35:51] April Hannah: Yeah. And so, and I'm doing a lot of inner child. Which, you know, also kind of goes back to the death card as well. Um, which is kind of like, [00:36:00] you know, the death of the old me brings the birth of the new me and doing a lot of that trauma work, um, has been great. So, yeah. 

[00:36:07] Selena Lovett: And then the devil card, obviously it's getting a lot of this and what was under the devil constantly, that was like the shadow card.

[00:36:13] Selena Lovett: So that's probably the fear and the, well, the law, everything that you're going through. Um, but then as, as I lifted there, Uh, devil CADA underneath was the queen of cups, which I feel is really, you know, saying everything is the more cleansing you do and getting rid of the fear and the hurt, especially the past.

[00:36:36] Selena Lovett: Sniff your mother. Then you'll have this beautiful love mother love and feeling the pure love connection. Uh, and that hurt, then the grief will move further away. So, yeah, 

[00:36:49] April Hannah: exactly beautiful. So, I mean, I, what a great demonstration, you know, my audience knows my story pretty well, and I'm sure as they're listening, they're probably like, yeah, that's going [00:37:00] on with April.

[00:37:01] April Hannah: So if people would like to, um, learn more about how, how to read this card deck, I know that you, I just want to take a look. Yeah. We're actually giving our guests, um, a free little gift. You were, um, offering 10% off of your live taro course. 

[00:37:19] Selena Lovett: Yeah. It's a 10 week course. It's about, well, it's two hours, um, every week, but they tend to, sometimes they go on depends on them.

[00:37:29] Selena Lovett: And what class we're on, but yeah, so it's 20 hours. So you really go from beginner to pro, um, but it, within that, it's all really about your journey. So although you come out as a tarot reader, ready, if you want to go onto platform, you know, go to share. But if not, it's your healing journey as well. So it is, it is beautiful.

[00:37:51] Selena Lovett: So there's a discount on that and you know, also people want, um, if they already got a little bit, bit, no terror, a little bit doing the [00:38:00] manifest manifest with tarot and, um, magic coast. But I know it's on my website, but I've actually not put any dates to it yet because I'm still. No, I think, do you know what it's like, you start something you think I'll do that about the manifested and then we're doing some older boat and some candle spells and, um, you know, how to manifest and, and magic.

[00:38:21] Selena Lovett: And then it just seems to expand and expand know, I tell them that as well about moon Richard Olson, what was going to be a little. Day workshop has gone into super before park course. 

[00:38:34] April Hannah: Right? Exactly. Yeah. Expansion, lots of ideas there too. And, uh, the website, which is the best website to give them to go to for you 

[00:38:43] Selena Lovett: and, um, WW dot Selina, joy.

[00:38:46] Selena Lovett: Love it. So Selena STL, E N a joy love it. so they can pop over there and then there's information on there about where they can buy the deck from. There's also free course that comes with the [00:39:00] deck if you purchase the deck. So, uh, and it's got some spreads in them, or if you already know terror, Spreads about, um, you know, having to look at your chakras to see what's happening within each chakra, to help you to enhance that energy.

[00:39:15] Selena Lovett: And also funny laugh, um, communicates with you in a child, you know, which goes into a little bit about, you know, what's your inner child saying to you because that can be one of our missions. Blocks, you know, everything in life, as you know, you know, people say, oh, what I manifest in magic? And it might well, because you know, these childhood pain or, or lessons learned.

[00:39:38] Selena Lovett: So it sort of, it helps to dictate, but we do dig quite deeper into that in, in the manifesting course, because then it's just sort of free. Any blocks so we can start bringing in everything that we deserve in life. 

[00:39:52] April Hannah: Beautiful. Yeah. And I'm telling you, I'm a huge fan of inner child work because I mean, I've done it before, but not to the level of [00:40:00] intensity that I'm doing right now.

[00:40:01] April Hannah: And like, she is my best friend right now. Like I am taking her everywhere with me. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, uh, it really makes a big difference. Like even these meditations that I've been doing with this other teacher, um, you know, when I would first go to rescue her, she'd be so sad and scared. And like now I show up and she's like, all right, what's going on?

[00:40:20] April Hannah: You know, like the essence of the energy of the inner child shifting, you know, and healing. So I mean that card reading. So, so wonderful and beautiful and great. And I love your energy and we'll definitely be following you on social media and hopefully we'll get to see a drop your phone a couple more times and just be authentic on the beach.

[00:40:41] Selena Lovett: Um, brilliant. Well, it's been so lovely meeting you and thank you for having me on. 

[00:40:45] April Hannah: Yeah. See, thank you. And I hope you all enjoyed this again. It's the journey to enlightenment taro and Selena joy. Dot com. So check it out. People buy the debt, get your free course and take advantage of that 10% [00:41:00] off. So thank you everyone.

[00:41:02] April Hannah: And thank you, Selena.